But the Water is in the CrawlSpace!

brian fish • February 22, 2023

Moisture under the home can impact the entire structure!

Clients will ask well how can my air quality and/or attic be mold because the moisture was under the home? It is a great question and it leads us back to cause and effect and the stack effect, which we have posted about before.


A wet crawlspace can cause a variety of issues for a home, and one of the most concerning is mold growth. However, what many homeowners may not realize is that a wet crawlspace can also lead to mold growth in the attic, this may seem like an unlikely connection, but there are several reasons why it can happen. This is also a location that a homeowner will rarely if ever go into this space and some may not even know where the access is.


First and foremost, a wet crawlspace creates a perfect environment for mold to grow. Mold thrives in damp and humid conditions, and a wet crawlspace can provide just that. Often poor exterior drainage, soils and lack of airflow allows for ground water to enter a crawl space. As moisture evaporates from the crawlspace, it can rise up into the attic, increasing the humidity level there as well. This elevated humidity can create the ideal conditions for mold growth in the attic.


Additionally, a wet crawlspace can lead to poor indoor air quality throughout the home, including the attic. As moisture evaporates from the crawlspace, it can carry with it any mold spores or other contaminants that may be present. These can then spread throughout the home, including into the attic, where they can settle and begin to grow.


Finally, another way that a wet crawlspace can cause mold growth in the attic is through air movement. As air circulates throughout the home, it can carry moisture and mold spores from the crawlspace up into the attic. This is especially true if there are gaps or cracks in the home’s insulation or ventilation system, as these can allow air to flow freely between the crawlspace and the attic. We often see this in older structures, or those that have had some extensive remodeling. Newer construction will have more air sealing taking place to reduce those open penetrations. A wet crawlspace can lead to structural damage in the home, which can then contribute to mold growth in the attic. Moisture can weaken the home’s foundation and framing, which can lead to sagging floors and walls. This can create gaps and cracks in the home’s structure, which can allow moisture and mold spores to travel freely between the crawlspace and the attic.


Overall, a wet crawlspace can be a serious problem for a home, and one that can lead to mold growth in the attic. If you suspect that your home has a wet crawlspace, it’s important to address the issue as soon as possible. This may involve installing a vapor barrier or improving the home’s ventilation system, among other solutions. By taking action to address a wet crawlspace, you can help to protect your home and your family from the dangers of mold growth. Give us a call if you suspect you may have an issue, we would be happy to help.


By brian fish December 13, 2023
What Level of Mold Spores Is Dangerous? When we are called to a property for testing of the indoor air (IAQ) testing clients are often asking well what if we find mold? We inform everyone that mold is present everywhere and every structure has it indoors. The very act of leaving your property walking outside and coming back in brings with it spores in the outdoor air. What we look at from the lab is the comparison. We compare the types and counts on the outdoor control sample to that of the various indoor samples. Then we look at counts and types. While some types can have larger counts indoors and be ok, some mold spores are known to me more toxigenic so their counts indoors can be more cause for concern. Testing and inspecting for mold needs to be examined on a case by case basis, no structure or home is the same. See below for count and type examples. What May Be Considered A Normal Mold Count? When we examine a home and get results, a normal mold spore count in a structure will land around 200-500 spores(per cubic meter, or m³). In fact, in most cases counts between 1-1500 mold spores in a room is often what would be considered normal as long as mold colonies are not visible and we did not locate any moisture presence or damage during our inspection. Mold spores are present in virtually every room of every building. These microscopic spores can come in from many different ways. They will attach and travel on the clothing you wear to having your windows open and a breeze blowing in. This is also why time of year and current conditions are important to note during a test. We generally prefer relatively closed conditions during testing to avoid the numbers being skewed. Types Penicillium/Aspergillus The most common mold spore species to appear in indoor air samples. The majority of the hundreds of sub-species are allergenic; only a few are toxic. This group of species only grows with the humidity in the air as its water source. Cladosporium The most common mold species found indoors and outdoors, indoors this species grows well in damp environments and areas where condensation builds up (window sills/frames), and is considered to be allergenic. Curvularia Another common allergenic mold known to bring on hay fever, asthma, and fungal sinusitis. Chaetomium A common water marker mold that usually indicates cellulose materials (wet paper and/or drywall). Stachybotrys The most common toxic mold species, but not all sub-species are toxic. People often associate this with "toxic black mold" as it has become labeled. These species need a direct water source to grow and produce mycotoxins that can cause burning sensations in the mouth and throat. Considered a damp mold, if in the air often from something that was damp being disturbed. Memnoniella A common mold found with the above and considered a sister mold to Stachybotrys. The two species will grow together; also considered toxic. Because mold spore species and levels differ within each state, agreements are hard to come by with analysts and scientists. For this reason we always conduct a comparison to an outdoor air sample. The following mold spore ranges use the spore/m³ number and not the raw count for each species when interpreted in a lab’s “Air Sample Report”. What Is Considered A High Mold Count? 0-50 spores These amounts would be considered trace levels and as such, are a non-issue. Even Stachybotrys at this low amount is not considered an issue if the sample does not also contain water markers like Chaetomium and Fusarium or high levels of Penicillium/Aspergillus. 50-200 spores Still very low levels; the toxic mold species Stachybotrys and Memnoniella are the only species to be considered an issue at this level. 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A perimeter clean-up is needed if a mold spore source has been identified. If water intrusion or mold issue wasn’t found, the home may need to be cleaned and the duct system should be evaluated. 10,000-25,000 spores Without a corresponding number in the outdoor sample, a mold spore source is usually identified, and remediation is needed. If no water intrusion or mold issue was found, we would begin to look at belongings, house history and the HVAC system(s) as they may need to be cleaned in addition to a deep cleaning of the residence. 25,000-75,000+ spores Counts this high should be apparent and easy to locate. Clean up will be required and should be performed by a Professional Mold Remediator. 75,000-1,000,000+ spores The mold issue will be evident. Remediation will be required, give North Sound Mold Solutions a call! If you suspect and issue or are having issues with molds, allergens or moisture, give us a call!
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